Will Obama use NDAA To Arrest State Reps and Citizens that support Secession?

This below synopsis was in our comments this morning.  It’s worth a look to read & see what we are all possibly up against in the future:

Hat tip: Rwolf 

Will Obama use NDAA To Arrest State Representatives and Citizens that support Secession?

Could Obama use NDAA To Arrest Secessionists on the Premise members are Militants and Belligerents that pose a threat to National Security?

Recently the Obama administration stated to Federal Judge Katherine Forest that under (NDAA) The National Defense Authorization Act of 2012 the President had authorization to lock up belligerents indefinitely. That they (were justified) to lock belligerents up indefinitely—because cases involving belligerents directly-aligned with militants against the good of America—warrants such punishment.) Pres. Obama could use NDAA provisions to order U.S. Military Forces to round up without evidence, millions of Americans including Secessionists and Militias by alleging they are belligerents or a threat to National Security. Many observers believe Obama intends to extend NDAA to imprison U.S. Citizens in Indefinite Detention not involved with or associated with enemy forces.

Hitler included similar provisions in his fascist (Discriminatory Decrees signed February 28, 1933). Almost immediately after the German Parliament passed Hitler’s laws, the Reich Government ordered the arrest of German Citizens and confiscated their guns without probable cause or evidence; delegated powers to German Police and other authorities to arrest anyone Nazi authorities claimed attempted or incited public unrest: arrested among others were outspoken Germans, writers, journalists, peaceful protestors and artists. After World War II the East German Secret Police (Stasi) used the threat of Indefinite Detention to forcibly recruit thousands of informants.

The U.S. 2012 NDAA legislation Obama signed 12-31-11 is similar to Hitler’s 1933 fascist laws the SS and Gestapo used to target persons in Germany for arrest, imprisonment and execution without probable cause; and confiscate millions of dollars of property. Hitler used his laws to suspend Parliament and the Supreme Court insuring his laws could not be rescinded.

During the Obama Administration’s recent request for a (stay) to stop U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest blocking enforcement of vague NDAA provisions, the Obama Administration—never clarified what constitutes a (belligerent); or militant; or what belligerent activities (directly aligned with a militant) to order a belligerent’s arrest or indefinite detention; or what is against the good of America. Under vague provisions of NDAA, the President could accuse anyone of being (directly aligned with militants by way of any political or other association; activity, statement, writing or communication with an individual or group government deemed (militant) to arrest and indefinitely detain Americans. Writers, journalists, Americans that disagree with or question U.S. Government or its allies—may under NDAA be subject to arrest and indefinite detention.

NDAA 2012, like Hitler’s 1933 Discriminatory Decrees enforces censorship; refers to the Patriot Act e.g. warrant-less searches of private property and forfeiture of property from persons not charged with crime. Provisions in NDAA 2012 keep the door open for corrupt U.S. police; government agents and provocateurs which there are many, to falsify reports and statements to target any American, group or organization for arrest, indefinite detention, complete disappearance; civil asset forfeiture of their property.

You may have noted NDAA referred to the USA Patriot Act. The Patriot Act lends itself to Government / police corruption; the Federal Government may use secret witnesses and informants to cause arrests and civil asset forfeiture of Americans’ property. Witness(s) and informants may be paid up to 50% of assets forfeited. Federal Government under 18USC may use a mere preponderance of civil evidence, little more than hearsay to Civilly Forfeit Private Property. Under the Patriot Act innocent property owners may be barred by government knowing the evidence federal government uses to forfeit their property.

Sections of NDAA 2012 are so broad, it appears U.S. Government or the President could (retroactively) deem an American’s past 1st Amendment activities prior to passage of 2012 NDAA—supported hostilities, terrorism or (Belligerents) to order the arrest and Indefinite Detention of any U.S. Citizen, writer, group or organization.

Under NDAA 2012 it should be expected that indefinitely detained U.S. Citizens not involved in terrorism or hostile activities, not given Miranda Warnings when interrogated, not allowed legal counsel or habeas corpus may be prosecuted for non-terrorist (ordinary crimes) because of their (alleged admissions) while held in Indefinite Detention.

21 thoughts on “Will Obama use NDAA To Arrest State Reps and Citizens that support Secession?

  1. MJ, it just doesn’t seem like there’s a light at the end of the tunnel. Here I am trying desperately to come back home….To this??? Damn it. Damn the fools who voted this creep in again.

  2. You would be coming back home to face war.
    Do you really want to come here? I wouldnt want to.

    IF you do, come to N. AZ. Yavapai County. We are all ‘evil’ whitey’s.

  3. lol they didn’t call me an oreo for nothing 🙂 prefer ‘evil’ whiteys to ‘evil’ blackies any ole day;) on the question of war…. nothing to live for equates to having something to die for.

  4. “You may have noted NDAA referred to the USA Patriot Act.”
    That is another way of saying, “You may have noted that Obama referred to Bush, who borrowed a thought from Clinton.”
    The “Patriot” Act was a Clinton instrument that he was never afforded the opportunity to use. Bush, however, was given the opportunity. Now, while al Qaeda is armed and supported across north Africa by the U.S., we here in the U.S. are considered the enemies of state.
    I can’t understand; how long is it going to take before we stop believing that the two controlling parties are actually against one another, and realize they are both against the constitution and our liberty?

    On a sidenote, Donna, could you email me? I am having trouble figuring out how to navigate around WordPress. Once I click away from this thread I will not be able to get back!
    dentonmc@gmail.com

  5. There will be no place on earth to escape this tyranny, only safer places but not without risk’s. This will be worldwide after the engineered collapse. The AC is ramping up his rhetoric with confidence. His Mark will begin to be instituted in March 2013. Check out the bar codes on items you buy. The first-middle-and last lines are almost always 2 skinny lines. 2 skinny lines are the numerical number 6.—- 666 is very prevalent in the bar code. Why? Not too difficult to find the answer. The number of the serpent. You know who he is. O BAM A–A MAB O–O BAM A—The Fiery Serpent’s bite is the Mark. All who receive the Mark will become spiritually dead–a true Zombie of the Beast.

  6. Oh, sorry, I assumed that was your name. My mistake.
    BTW, I just saw a highlighted quote bubble on the upper right hand corner of my WordPress page!
    I’m getting the hang of this, slowly. 🙂

  7. Nice to meet you, Pauli! I am Denton, or, AnAmericaninaforeignworld. I think many of us feel that way, though.

  8. I’m trying to put your blog on a visible list of the blogs I keep up with (mainly, you and Barenakedislam) but I am getting my butt kicked by WordPress. Taking a book to work to read while waiting for a wrench to be turned. It might be a little too advanced for me. What I need is, “WordPress for Complete and Utter Morons!”

  9. WordPress is really the WORST. I almost went to hostgator, but what for?
    If they close me down, I dont want to be out $60. When I have friends that need help.

    Anyway, I am off n rolling, have a gig today.
    Take care 🙂

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  11. Hah! 0bama’s doing better. He has served on 14 US Governors National Security Letters (NSLs) warning that if their actions in attempting to form what are called State Defense Forces are not halted , they will face ‘immediate’ arrest for the crime of Treason.
    The use of NSLs in the United States was authorized by the Patriot Act law enacted after the September 11, 2001 attacks and forbids anyone receiving them from even acknowledging their existence, and was reauthorized by Obama’s “rubberstamp” Congress (always in cahoots with the Nigger) this past February over the objections of both civil and human rights groups who warned they mimic similar type “government security notices” enacted under both the former German Nazi and Soviet Communist regimes.

    The two US Governors spearheading this rebellion against Obama are the Republican opposition party Governors of Minnesota, Tim Pawlenty and Texas, RickPerry; both of whom have a deep fear their President is destroying their Nation.

    Get ready for Civil War, Amerikaners. And pray the National Guard troops and the Oathkeepers join the State’s Defense Forces. The Nigger Evil fearing a revolution against him by the States has moved swiftly against them, including nationalizing nearly all National Guard Forces in Governor Pawlenty’s Minnesota in what is being described as their State’s largest call up of troops since World War II. Other reports coming are stating that Obama has also nationalized the National Guard forces in Georgia, Alabama, Kansas, and perhaps Texas too.
    Though Obama may have taken from these dissident States their National Guard forces, the Governors of the States of Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia still have under their sole command their State Defense Forces to go against US Federal forces.
    Important to note there are no US laws prohibiting National Guard troops from also joining their State’s Defense Forces, but would create a dilemma for those soldiers should they be called to service by them both at the same time. This dilemma occurred for many American soldiers during their Civil War with the great majority of them choosing to serve their States instead of the Federal Government.
    Your Congress Critters will not help you. Its you who have to save your own hide.

    We watch the ‘interesting times’ America will undergo . Then perhaps the common Amerikaner will get a feel of what life was like when his nation bombed Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and now Syria. And what the Israelis are undergoing because of America. As is done to Israel, so will it be on your head.

  12. That Smell— “You smell that? Do you smell that? Napalm, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that. I love the smell of napalm in the morning.”

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